Putting the Pop into Art, and Art into Pop by Doing things better and doing better things.

Malcom Garrett is a design legend. This is a wonderful and rich conversation about his work for bands including The Buzzcocks and Duran Duran. But more than that it is a conversation about the very nature of design and creativity. There is much in here that made me think but this line "you can't do good work for a client that doesn't want it" really struck me.

It's a wonderful conversation that reflects the nature of the man.

Thanks Malcolm.

A massive shout-out to Mark Cotton for the audio engineering of the podcast.