Kitchen_Table_Talks #1 by Julienne B. Ryan published on 2022-02-02T15:28:31Z I recorded this conversation with my friend and colleague Michael T. Holmes as part of our "Kitchen Table Talks - Modeling the Change We Aspire to See in Others" conversation series. This concept is the result of a series of honest and sometimes challenging conversations we've had over the years. Our goal is to discuss Diversity, Equity and Inclusion in a frank and honest manner. In this recording, Michael addresses his work, this series "why" and a few misused terms and concepts. Thank you for listening.