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EP.10 - LOUIS THEROUX by Adam Buxton

published on 2015-11-27T20:00:33Z

EP.10 - LOUIS THEROUX CONTAINS BAD AND STRONG LANGUAGE (whatever the intro says...)!!! Adam enjoys another ramble chat with film-maker/journalist and long time friend Louis Theroux about putting on make up in public, cinema etiquette, heckling and the fun/annoying things that kids say.

Comment by Gareth Gallagher 1

Chuck! Chuck, it's Marvin. Your cousin, Marvin Berry. You know that new sound you're looking for? Well, listen to this!

2016/01/10 19:23:37 +0000

Comment by Andrew Bird (UK)

I'm BUXTON-BINGEING! Louis-Adam should pair up mnore often! Bloomin brilliant.

2015/12/23 13:05:51 +0000

Comment by natsickles

@adam-buxton: Oops I didn't mean to press return that quickly... you had this discussion about women doing their make up on trains with Joe on a 6 music podcast once and it peeved me slightly then as well, so this time I thought "that's it, I'm going to bloody well make a soundcloud account and tell him exactly what I think of him!" I think it was just the phrase "acceptable". We know you're a nice boy really.

2015/12/16 10:51:14 +0000

Comment by natsickles

@adam-buxton: Har harrr. Sorry I appear to have started a war! I think you just came across badly.

2015/12/16 10:44:48 +0000

Comment by Adam Buxton

@lesen: If that's how it comes across, that's a shame. I don't like it when anyone is made to feel self conscious about their appearance and I hope I would never impugn anyone's freedom to look they way they want to look. If it sounded like I was having a dig at women, then I expressed myself poorly. For me the conversation was about applying make-up as theatre, but I appreciate that's a little simple minded when it comes to an area that crosses over with gender politics and legitimate beefs that women, especially, have with predominantly male judgements and expectations about how they look. Holy crap, this is like The Moral Maze, I'm exhausted...

2015/12/16 09:24:03 +0000

Comment by Lesen

@adam-buxton: Opening a conversation with "do you like it when ladies put on makeup in public, on public transport etc?" and saying "I don't understand why women think it's acceptable to do all their makeup routine on a train?" and you can't accept that people might accuse you of singling out women??

2015/12/15 23:27:55 +0000

Comment by Adam Buxton

@lesen: I think 'it's not for you' was Louis saying 'you're not the audience' - as the discussion was about putting on make up as a theatrical gesture not about women per se. Perhaps naive of me to think I could make that distinction. Do you really think I wish women could be stopped from putting on make up in public?!

2015/12/15 15:19:06 +0000

Comment by Bradley Purnell

The Ramble Chat jingle is SO GOOD

2015/12/15 12:20:33 +0000

Comment by WesleyRiot

@adam-buxton: a fair point i think

2015/12/14 11:56:18 +0000

Comment by WesleyRiot

@adam-buxton: lol thanks sir

2015/12/14 11:54:49 +0000

Comment by WesleyRiot

@adam-buxton: well... coming from dr buckles maybe......

2015/12/14 11:54:38 +0000

Comment by Lesen

@lesen: It's not for you is polite way of saying do not judge the women who has to put on makeup.

2015/12/11 15:05:34 +0000

Comment by Lesen

@adam-buxton: "I dont understand why women think it's acceptable" I think if you say this as a man – alarm bells should be ringing that you are on dangerous ground. Quite simply who are we to judge? Especially on the issue of makeup as you explore, because a big part of the history there is women being objectified by men. I think at this point you are clearly singling out a women for putting on the makeup in public. That is why it's dodgy territory. It's one of those ones where I just wouldn't go there. I think Louie does you a favour pretty quickly. Sorry if you don't agree

2015/12/11 12:46:51 +0000

Comment by BaekMa

Love Louis' gentle little Theroux smackdown. "Not for you." Yes, Louis. :)

2015/12/11 00:58:14 +0000

Comment by Adam Buxton

@adam-buxton: Sorry, just realised Sissy is the name of your band (who sound good by the way)...I'm thick

2015/12/10 16:03:47 +0000

Comment by Adam Buxton

@sissydublin: I feel you've misunderstood me Sissy. I started by saying I was talking about the act of putting on make up in public whether it's a man or a woman. The interesting thing for me is the way people behave in public, not how 'women' behave or how 'men' behave. When we're out in public, we're all being scrutinised, admired, dismissed, laughed at, whatever. When we're in public we are ALL performing. We used to talk about this on the radio a lot. Of course women routinely suffer a different kind of scrutiny but I don't believe that's what I was celebrating or defending that here. Perhaps you feel the two can't be separated. If so, we disagree but I wish we could do so without the atmosphere of admonishment that so often accompanies these kinds of discussions.

2015/12/10 15:52:39 +0000

Comment by Sissy

@adam-buxton: You're talking about whether a womon's actions in a public space was correct or incorrect etiquette. I was glad to see @user-592859066 's comment. It is difficult to be a womon in public space period. To some, her actions could be brave, to allow people to see her wo makeup, performing a private action in public, defiant. It is also more likely not a performance, not for anyone but herself. As a womon in public space is it very difficult and frustrating to feel your presence as performance. The very act of putting yourself in public, opening yourself up for critque. How you are dressed, whether or not you wear make up, how your actions (your walk, your eyecontact) are being judged and interpreted. Its a daily reality and frustration. Hearing a privileged perspective on a podcast you have otherwise enjoyed is too.

2015/12/10 12:44:01 +0000

Comment by Adam Buxton

@summonthebirds: Yes, was no good. Hoping to get it right before long.

2015/12/10 10:51:25 +0000

Comment by Adam Buxton

@ash-collins-2: Knock yourself out m8!

2015/12/10 10:50:37 +0000

Comment by Adam Buxton

@ash-collins-2: Everyone could do with a kiss. x

2015/12/10 10:50:15 +0000

Comment by Adam Buxton

@alan1o: Wish I hadn't mentioned it... I'm driving myself nuts every time I do it now.

2015/12/10 10:49:43 +0000

Comment by Adam Buxton

@lesen: Think the implication from some people is that I'm being somehow misogynistic here, though I'm at pains to say I'm talking about the act of putting on make up whether it's a man or a woman doing it. Not in any way suggesting that people should not be allowed to do it. But as it's not part of my routine I was curious to explore the motivations of those for whom it is. Think Louis unpacks it quite well. It's not for me. Do you think I'm missing something else that I ought to be more sensitive to (even in a hopefully humorous conversation between friends - albeit one that I've made public)?