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Michael Smerconish - Ex-Scientologist and Tom Cruise Auditor Marty Rathbun

Smerconish on July 10, 2012 22:50

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    Michael Smerconish talks to Marty Rathbun about Tom Cruise and scientology.

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    2 timed comments and 5 regular comments

    • Chris_152
      Chris_152 at 7.08 on May 11, 2013 14:22

      When I got into Scientology (Scn) in 1977, it was brand new to me. I had never heard of it, Dianetics or L. Ron Hubbard. It was all intriguing to me and I had my doubts for many months. I later got into my first auditing session and (what Scientologists understand as) blew some charge that was humongous. I had never felt so good --- I recall thinking “Wow, LRH really has discovered something that I’ve never heard about --- and it works amazingly well! Wow, what else has he discovered?”

    • Chris_152
      Chris_152 at 7.21 on May 11, 2013 13:33

      Michael, get Marty on more often; and Mike Rinder and Amy Scobee. I got into Scientolgy in 1977 --- it was so exciting that my wife and I couldn

    • thoughtbeing
      thoughtbeing on July 16, 2012 15:33

      Smart interview, Michael. I hope you do have Marty back. I just ordered his book from Amazon. After getting into Scientology in 1968 and leaving in 1999, I continue to audit in the Independent Field. Hoping to help those members of the sea organization who are leaving now and having disheveled lives in tow. They leave with no money, no work history, alienated from the society they were taught would destroy them should they ever leave the confines of the Co$. If you fit this description and want some help pulling things together, I'm in the Tampa area. You can reach me by responding to this blog.

    • Djangeaux
      Djangeaux on July 15, 2012 18:11

      Nice that the media is finally paying some attention to this cancer in our midst. Scientology is nothing less than an organized crime organization, with added layers of religious cloaking and cult-like mind-control techniques, and it's time the world awakens to that fact.

      Mr. Rathbun is an important and knowledgeable resource into this world in some ways, but in others an extremely unreliable one. In spite of the mountain of undisputed evidence before him, and before the world, Marty simply will not lay responsibility for initiating this horrendous scam squarely where it belongs: In the hands of the con man and psychopath L. Ron Hubbard. I strongly suggest that Mr. Smerconish follow up with any number of Scientology critics who haven't fallen for Mr. Hubbard's line of nonsensical tripe, people like Mark Bunker or Andreas Heldal-Lund. Ex-members such as Tory Christman, Gary Scharff, or Jason Beghe have some fascinating and horrific stories to tell. Journalists Tony Ortega and, famously, Paulette Cooper each have their own takes on how this cult handles criticism. Ms. Cooper provides a particularly harrowing narrative, one that renders any notion of pre-Miscavige benevolence on Scientology's part spectacularly false.

      I'm looking forward to more coverage of this scene from Mr. Smerconish or any journalist with the courage to pursue it. The Cruise/Holmes divorce may have focused some attention on the cult, but it shouldn't end there. There's hundreds of stories revolving around Scientology, most of them riveting, most of them with bad ends.

      Let's expose this organization for what it is. It harasses its critics brutally, it mistreats and enslaves its adherents, it breaks up families, it drains bank accounts, it bribes government officials, it dodges millions in taxation using demonstrably false religious claims.

      "I'd like to start a religion, that's where the money is". Opinions differ on when, or even whether, Lafayette Ronald Hubbard made that statement. Can anyone deny that he entertained the notion, and that the resulting monster, though crippled, is still roaming the countryside, leaving tragic devastation in its wake?

    • user8173222
      user8173222 on July 14, 2012 01:57

      I have studied "cults" for years, including the Ron L. Hubbard group,I used to see them when driving past their compound in San Jacinto Calif., they marched along like zombies, mindless of the armed guards at the gates. Gods love is so easy, but dianetic's is not. There are so many cults our there these days, I wonder, how can anyone drop into one as thousands have and still do?
      My answer is this,,,,, it seems we all want an easy "religion" or belief, one that does not take away our freedom, and yet, that is exactly what a cult does.
      Recently, I have been interested in Katie Holmes, divorcing Tom. On media films I saw a young woman practically running to her attorneys office, as though being scared. I also see the brave sweet face she has shown too. Tom is the loser here, he has lost such a sweet special woman and wife. She tried it all on, and now is taking it all off, in a big hurry to save little Suri. I am afraid for Suri in her future, the forbidden, the daddy she loves,, I just hope she is not into this as she grows up.
      I also read the first pages of Mr Rathbun's book,not a bit suprised at the harassment and worse he and his wife are experiencing. This cult takes in lots and lots of MONEY,,,, and thru Hollywood, they know where to find the big bucks! Beware folks, evil can mascarade in sheeps clothing.

    • user8173222
      user8173222 on July 14, 2012 01:57

      I have studied "cults" for years, including the Ron L. Hubbard group,I used to see them when driving past their compound in San Jacinto Calif., they marched along like zombies, mindless of the armed guards at the gates. Gods love is so easy, but dianetic's is not. There are so many cults our there these days, I wonder, how can anyone drop into one as thousands have and still do?
      My answer is this,,,,, it seems we all want an easy "religion" or belief, one that does not take away our freedom, and yet, that is exactly what a cult does.
      Recently, I have been interested in Katie Holmes, divorcing Tom. On media films I saw a young woman practically running to her attorneys office, as though being scared. I also see the brave sweet face she has shown too. Tom is the loser here, he has lost such a sweet special woman and wife. She tried it all on, and now is taking it all off, in a big hurry to save little Suri. I am afraid for Suri in her future, the forbidden, the daddy she loves,, I just hope she is not into this as she grows up.
      I also read the first pages of Mr Rathbun's book,not a bit suprised at the harassment and worse he and his wife are experiencing. This cult takes in lots and lots of MONEY,,,, and thru Hollywood, they know where to find the big bucks! Beware folks, evil can mascarade in sheeps clothing.

    • Alaska Ronn
      Alaska Ronn on July 11, 2012 18:56

      Nicely done Michael, and big kudos to you and Rathbun, nicely put together. Marty so rocks, and yes you can trust your instincts (at the end of the interview). I was a former member for 33 years, 8 of which were on staff. Marty is your guy if you really want to know about Scientology (bypass the uneducated keyboard drama played out on the internet), inside or out, taking nothing away from the plenitude of other high ranking officials and experienced public that have left in recent times.

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